The battle in chat room

Written on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 by Unknown

This is an extract of conversation between me and Sanjay about the much hyped words like "Momentum", "Moral Victory" etc etc..

5:19 PM Sanjay: kitne run se jeeti?
me: 39
Sanjay: abey yaar
shud have been 50
chal anyways
5:20 PM me: kya farq padta hai saley
Sanjay: padta hai yaar
morally more crushing
5:21 PM me: these talks of morally and momentum are all bull shit
Sanjay: wankhede mein india ne harna to tha hi,after sachin's dismissal
me: where did the mumbai momentum go?
Sanjay: lekin 212 run se with more than a session to go was what was more hurting
me: now papers will talk bout momentum being in india way
Sanjay: abey wo momentum to england had lost day before in jaipur yaar
me: that was so morally crushing
exactly
why did they lose in jaipur at all
Sanjay: warm up match hi haar gaye the saale
5:22 PM me: they were on a high
Sanjay: it matters yaar
me: momentum unke saath tha
they should have won then
Sanjay: you start doubting urself
me: india were morally crushed
Sanjay: india(especially bhajji) was able to pull himself out of it
me: how did then they come back from behind
abey yaar
Sanjay: otherwise india had almost lost this one
me: these stupid terms dont matter i think at all
Sanjay: hota hai yaar
5:23 PM me: kya hota hai
Sanjay: confidence pe bahut farak padta hai
its always there
me: why did england lost in jaipur
Sanjay: abey its not that you cant lose or anything
but you are more confident
thats it
bas confidence aur self-belief ki baat hai
some ppl might be able to have it inspite of not winning matches
but winning matches helps
me: the self-belief of bhajji would be high now
5:24 PM Sanjay: the bigger the margin the more confident you become
yes exactly
me: now wat happens when andrew flintoff comes in next match and smashes him all over the park
according to this logic
flintoff cant do that
5:25 PM Sanjay: abey aisa kuchh nahi hai
me: yaad hai pathan ne pakistan mein (pahli series) mein ** **** di thi
Sanjay: i m not saying that you become invincible
its just taht you will be more confident
its confidence yaar nothing else
me: i agree that these things do matter
Sanjay: achha you tell me
me: but not as much as they r blown out of proportion
Sanjay: why do ppl wear specific bandanas and jersey numbers
5:26 PM and try and go with the same bat if they have performed well with it?
me: one bad over can change everything
Sanjay: its just that you think that it is helping ur performance
<> its not doing anything extraordinary
but you are just more confident wearing that bandana or whatever
5:27 PM me: abey u r not getting the point
i dont say that u dont require confidence at all
Sanjay: you are not getting the point!
me: u do require
u also require the momentum
but one can seize away this iniative in one good over
Sanjay: abey u cant do anything with just confidence
you need to do things rigth also
5:28 PM and it becomes easier with confidence<>
me: after the win south africa had on australia... nothing can be more morally crushing
Sanjay: thats all i am saying
if you are believing in yourself
me: losing after scoring 434
u seriously woudl start doubting ur capabilites
but look wat is happening in test matches
dono innings mila ke bhi sa 434 nahi bana pa rahi hai
Sanjay: ok
now you tell me
how come
5:29 PM <>when some bowler is bowling badly
and he gets a wicket
all of a sudden he starts bowling a fiery spell?
(has happened many times with shoaib and today it happnd with bhajji and in the first match or second test with kumble)
me: yeh bhi hota hai ki after getting a wicket he is hit all over
5:30 PM and yeh bhi hota hai ki (jaisa ki u mentioned) u keep getting hit everywhere and u still start getting wickets
Sanjay: abey maximum time ye hi hota hai ki bowler gets more confident and bowls better
u mean u keep getting wickets(instead of start) right? otherwise that statmenet is confusing
me: there are more cases of bowlere getting hit after getting a wicket than getting more wicketws
5:31 PM <>Sanjay: abey its more abt bowling better rather than getting wickets
if a bowler is hit for a six in the same over as he gets a wicket then the confidence gained is lost
its not just a game of good shots good ball and good fieldings
me: exactly now u r talking
5:32 PM Sanjay: its also a mental game
the balance can keep shifting
me: so that confidence gained could be as short lived as one ball
right??
Sanjay: but if you are strong and resistant enough once you get the "ba;ance" and "momentum" in ur favour you try not to lose it
yes exactly
<>
me: so u think england or india are strong and resistand enough
5:33 PM Sanjay: abey yaaaaaaar
you are not getting my point
you can just resist to it
you cannot just stop it from going to the other side
england did have the "momentum" in todays match too!
they just became overconfident
me: yehi to main point prove karna chah raha hoon ki yeh jo cliches hain " morally crushing" "momentum" etc are not as important as made by media, u and me
Sanjay: flintoff and pieterson threw their wickets when there was no need
5:34 PM <>they could have defended
me: more batsmen from indian side threw their wicket
Sanjay: they are only as important as the player considers it to be
me: than in english side
so wat do u mean by "Team is confident"
Sanjay: just as in the case of superstition
5:35 PM me: if it boils down to individual
Sanjay: *sigh
this argument is a lost cause
its not abt any individual or team at all man
<>me: and if u win this argument u'll have momentum with u for next argument :D
u'll be more confidnet
it would be morally crushing for me
lol
Sanjay: hey bhagwaaaaan!

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